Optex Systems Holdings Inc
For the period ended Mar 30, 2025. Filed May 13, 2025.
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Mar 30, 2025 · Filed May 13, 2025
What changed in Management’s Discussion and Analysis?
Read the current filingPrevious report: 10-Q
Period ended 2024-12-29; filed 2025-02-10.
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Item 2. Management’s Discussion and Analysis of Financial Condition and Results of OperationsCurrent report: 10-Q
Period ended 2025-03-30; filed 2025-05-13.
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Item 2. Management’s Discussion and Analysis of Financial Condition and Results of OperationsThe baseline is this issuer’s latest earlier reporting period of the same form that was filed before the current report. A previous 10-Q is a different quarter, not a year-over-year comparison. Amendments are excluded.
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Current report
We currently do not anticipate any significant material risks as a result of the recent tariff uncertainties. Our defense products are primarily sourced domestically, but those which are imported are primarily duty free. We produce some commercial optical assemblies with selective components sourced from Taiwan; however, our existing customer backlog is covered with existing material in inventory. We anticipate any future orders for these commercial products will have updated pricing inclusive of any tariff impact.
Current report
Our net income increased by $1.1 million to $2.6 million for the six months ended March 30, 2025, as compared to net income of $1.5 million for the prior year period. Our adjusted EBITDA increased by $1.2 million to $3.6 million for the six months ended March 30, 2025, as compared to adjusted EBITDA of $2.4 million for the prior year period.
Current report
For the six months ended March 30, 2025, our total revenues increased by $3.4 million, or 22.2%, compared to the prior year period. The increase in revenue was primarily driven increased periscope production capacity at the Optex Richardson segment and higher customer demand for laser filters at the Applied Optics Center.
Current report
Consolidated gross profit for the three months ended March 30, 2025 increased by $0.8 million, or 31.4%, compared to the prior year period. Consolidated gross profit for the six months ended March 30, 2025 increased by $1.2 million, or 29.4%, compared to the prior year period.
Current report
The increase in the most recent three and six-month period gross margin was primarily attributable to increased revenue and higher absorption of fixed costs across the higher revenue base.
Current report
Our operating income for the six months ended March 30, 2025 increased by $1.2 million, or 65.2%, compared to the prior year period. The increase in operating income was primarily driven by higher revenue and gross profit across both operating segments.
Current report
During the six months ended March 30, 2025, the Company booked $15.7 million in new orders, representing a (12.3 %) decrease over the prior year period. The decrease in orders is primarily attributable to a (19.8%) decrease in the Optex Richardson segment orders over the prior year period. The Applied Optics Center orders remained flat as compared to the prior year period.
Current report
During the current year six-month period, Optex Richardson orders decreased by $2.2 million, or (19.8%) as compared to the prior year period. The primary reason for the decrease relates to the timing of order releases against our periscope and other contracts. We have seen an increase in proposal requests over the last three months and expect additional orders to be forthcoming over the next three to six months.
Current report
Applied Optics Center backlog as of March 30, 2025, was $10.1 million as compared to a backlog of $14.3 million as of March 31, 2024, representing a decrease of ($4.2) million or (29.4%). Subsequent to the six-month period ended March 30, 2025, on April 9, 2025, the Company announced a $5.7 million award for laser filter units for the Applied Optics Center to be delivered between August 2025 and December 2026 which would bring Total Backlog to $46.8.
Current report
Optex Richardson revenue increased by $2.0 million or 47.8% for the three months ended March 30, 2025 as compared to the prior year period on increased production volume on our periscope product line.
Current report
Applied Optics Center revenue increased by $0.2 million or 3.8% for the three months ended March 30, 2025 as compared to the prior year period. The revenue increase was primarily driven by increased customer demand for military products, partially offset by a reduction in our commercial optical assemblies.
Current report
Gross Profit. Gross margin during the three-month period ended March 30, 2025 was 31.3% of revenue as compared to a gross margin of 30.0% of revenue for the prior year period. Gross profit increased by $0.8 million to $3.4 million for the three months ended March 30, 2025 as compared to $2.6 million in the prior year three months. The increase in gross profit is primarily attributable to increased revenue and higher fixed costs absorption across both operating segments. Cost of sales increased to $7.4 million for the current period as compared to the prior year period of $6.0 million on higher revenue.
Current report
Operating Income. During the three months ended March 30, 2025, we recorded operating income of $2.2 million, as compared to operating income of $1.4 million during the three months ended March 31, 2024. The $0.8 million increase in operating income for the current year period from the prior year period is primarily due to higher revenue and gross profit and lower general and administrative costs during the current year period.
Current report
Six Months Ended March 30, 2025 Compared to the Six Months Ended March 31, 2024
Current report
Revenues. For the six months ended March 30, 2025, revenues increased by $3.4 million or 22.2% compared to the prior year period as set forth in the table below:
Current report
Optex Richardson revenue increased by $2.1 million or 26.9% for the six months ended March 30, 2025 as compared to the prior year period primarily on increased periscope revenue, partially offset by lower revenue in other products including mirrors, beamsplitters, day cameras and objective lenses. We anticipate lower revenues for the balance of the fiscal year in other products, as compared to the prior year, offset by higher revenue in periscopes.
Current report
As of March 30, 2025, the Company had no outstanding capital commitments for the purchase of property and equipment. We anticipate additional capital projects forthcoming in the next three to six months.
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Previous report
Segment Information
Previous report
We have presented the operating results by segment to provide investors with an additional tool to evaluate our operating results and to have a better understanding of the overall performance of each business segment. Management of Optex Systems Holdings uses the selected financial measures by segment internally to evaluate its ongoing segment operations and to allocate resources within the organization accordingly. Segments are determined based on differences in products, location, internal reporting and how operational decisions are made. Management has determined that the Optex Systems, Richardson plant (to which we refer below as the Optex Richardson segment or Optex Systems), and the Applied Optics Center, Dallas plant (to which we refer below as the Applied Optics Center segment, or Applied Optics Center) are separately managed, organized, and internally reported as separate business segments. The table below provides a summary of selective statement of operations data by operating segment for the three months ended December 29, 2024 and December 31, 2023 reconciled to the Condensed Consolidated Results of Operations as presented in Item 1, “Condensed Consolidated Financial Statements.”
Previous report
Consolidated gross profit for the three months ended December 29, 2024 increased by $0.4 million, or 26.4%, compared to the prior year period. Increased gross profit during the period was primarily driven by changes in product mix combined with higher revenue against a fixed cost base at the Applied Optics Center segment, offset by lower gross profit at the Optex Richardson segment on changes in product mix.
Previous report
During the three months ended December 29, 2024, the Company booked $6.0 million in new orders, representing a 40.6% decrease over the prior year period orders of $10.1 million. The orders for the most recently completed three months consist of $2.6 million for our Optex Richardson segment and $3.3 million attributable to the Applied Optics Center segment.
Previous report
Orders for the Optex Richardson segment decreased by $3.6 million, or 58.1%, from the prior year period, primarily as a result of order timing. We continue to be the sole source supplier on the majority of our backlog and our customers recognize the overall lead time has increased on many of these products. Based on this, our customers are placing periscope orders earlier in anticipation of longer lead times to delivery. For the year ended September 29, 2024, our periscope orders had increased $4 million, or 25.2% and as such our Optex Richardson order backlog remains strong and above the prior period backlog levels. In addition, we have several large proposals in process for which we expect an award in the next three to six months.
Previous report
Orders for the Applied Optics Center decreased by $0.5 million, or 12.8%, from the prior year period, primarily as a result of order timing. As of February 5, 2025, we have booked an additional $1.1 million in new orders for the Applied Optics Center. Orders for the Applied Optics Center can be somewhat volatile from quarter to quarter depending on factors such as government funding and commercial sales levels of key customers.
Previous report
Applied Optics Center backlog as of December 29, 2024 was $11.0 million as compared to a backlog of $15.7 million as of December 31, 2023, representing a decrease of $4.7 million or 29.9%. The decrease in backlog for the Applied Optics Center is across all product groups and is primarily attributed to the timing of customer orders. We are anticipating new orders in the near term for delivery in the current fiscal year.
Previous report
Optex Richardson revenue increased by $21 thousand or 0.6% for the three months ended December 29, 2024 as compared to the prior year period with higher revenue in periscopes and sighting systems, offset by lower revenue on other product line, which include collimators, beamsplitters and objective cells and mirror assemblies. Based on our current backlog, we expect revenues to increase across all Optex Richardson product lines over the next three quarters.
Previous report
The Company has capital commitments of $110 thousand for the purchase of property and equipment.
Previous report
On September 22, 2021 the Company announced authorization for an additional $1 million stock repurchase program. As of September 29, 2024, there was an authorized balance of $560 thousand remaining to be spent against the repurchase program. During the three months ended December 29, 2024, there were no stock repurchases against the plan.
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Previous wording
This Management’s Discussion and Analysis of Financial Condition and Results of Operations (MD&A) is intended to supplement and complement our audited consolidated financial statements and notes thereto for the fiscal year ended September 29, 2024 and our unaudited condensed consolidated financial statements and notes thereto for the quarter ended December 29, 2024, prepared in accordance with U.S. generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP). You are encouraged to review our condensed consolidated financial statements in conjunction with your review of this MD&A. The financial information in this MD&A has been prepared in accordance with GAAP, unless otherwise indicated. In addition, we use non-GAAP financial measures as supplemental indicators of our operating performance and financial position. We use these non-GAAP financial measures internally for comparing actual results from one period to another, as well as for planning purposes. We will also report non-GAAP financial results as supplemental information, as we believe their use provides more insight into our performance. When a non-GAAP measure is used in this MD&A, it is clearly identified as a non-GAAP measure and reconciled to the most closely corresponding GAAP measure.
Current wording
This Management’s Discussion and Analysis of Financial Condition and Results of Operations (MD&A) is intended to supplement and complement our audited condensed consolidated financial statements and notes thereto for the fiscal year ended September 29, 2024 and our unaudited consolidated financial statements and notes thereto for the quarter ended March 30, 2025, prepared in accordance with U.S. generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP). You are encouraged to review our consolidated financial statements in conjunction with your review of this MD&A. The financial information in this MD&A has been prepared in accordance with GAAP, unless otherwise indicated. In addition, we use non-GAAP financial measures as supplemental indicators of our operating performance and financial position. We use these non-GAAP financial measures internally for comparing actual results from one period to another, as well as for planning purposes. We will also report non-GAAP financial results as supplemental information, as we believe their use provides more insight into our performance. When a non-GAAP measure is used in this MD&A, it is clearly identified as a non-GAAP measure and reconciled to the most closely corresponding GAAP measure.
Previous wording
We have experienced substantial increases in the costs of aluminum, steel and acrylic commodities, which has affected our net income in the quarter ended December 29, 2024 and is expected to continue to have a negative effect on the margins generated under several of our long-term fixed contracts over the next two years. See also “Item 1A. Risk Factors – Risks Related to Our Business -*Certain of our products are dependent on specialized sources of supply potentially subject to disruption which could have a material, adverse impact on our business”*in our Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended September 29, 2024.
Current wording
The Optex Richardson segment has numerous fixed price multi-year contracts covering delivery periods up to five years from the contract award. Approximately 7% of our Optex Richardson segment backlog are for items priced prior to 2021. Since the year 2021, we have experienced substantial increases in the costs of aluminum, steel and acrylic commodities, which has affected the Optex Richardson segment margins for deliveries against those orders during the three and six months ended March 30, 2025 and which are expected to continue to have a negative effect on the margins generated under several of our long-term fixed contracts through the first fiscal quarter of 2026. See also “Item 1A. Risk Factors – Risks Related to Our Business -*Certain of our products are dependent on specialized sources of supply potentially subject to disruption which could have a material, adverse impact on our business”*in our Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended September 29, 2024.
Previous wording
We have experienced significant material shortages during the fiscal year ended October 1, 2023 and the first half of fiscal year ended September 29, 2024 from several significant suppliers of our periscope covers and housings. These shortages affect several of our periscope products at the Optex Richardson segment. The delays in key components, combined with labor shortages during the first half of the fiscal year ended September 29, 2024, have negatively impacted our production levels and have pushed back expected delivery dates. We have obtained an alternative source for one of our key components and are expediting our other suppliers to support the increased production levels.
Current wording
We experienced significant material shortages during the fiscal year ended October 1, 2023 into the first half of fiscal year ended September 29, 2024 from several significant suppliers of our periscope covers and housings. These shortages affected several of our periscope products at the Optex Richardson segment. The delays in key components, combined with labor shortages during the first half of the fiscal year ended September 29, 2024, negatively impacted our production levels and pushed expected delivery dates into fiscal year 2025. We have obtained an alternative source for one of our key components and expedited our other suppliers to support the increased production levels.
Previous wording
We have seen improvements in the local labor market since 2023 and increased our direct labor force and employee overtime in concert with improvements in our supplier delivery performance. Further, we have invested in additional machinery and equipment and other process improvements to increase production capacity and alleviate process bottlenecks. While we are encouraged by improvements in supplier performance and available manpower for the Optex Richardson segment periscope line which yielded increased revenue performance during fiscal year 2024, we have yet to ramp up deliveries sufficiently to keep pace with our current customer demands. As such, we cannot give any assurances that expected customer delivery dates for our periscope products will not experience further delays.
Current wording
We have seen improvements in the local labor market since 2023 and increased our direct labor force and employee overtime in concert with improvements in our supplier delivery performance. Further, we have invested in additional machinery and equipment and other process improvements to increase production capacity and alleviate process bottlenecks. In the first six months of fiscal year 2025, we have increased our periscope production levels by 50% over the 2024 fiscal year level. While we are encouraged by improvements in supplier performance and available manpower for the Optex Richardson segment periscope line which yielded increased revenue performance during fiscal year 2024 and 2025, we have yet to ramp up deliveries sufficiently to keep pace with our current customer demands. As such, we cannot give any assurances that expected customer delivery dates for our periscope products will not experience further delays.
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The table below summarizes our three-month operating results for the periods ended December 29, 2024 and December 31, 2023, in terms of both the GAAP net income measure and the non-GAAP Adjusted EBITDA measure. We believe that including both measures allows the reader better to evaluate our overall performance.
Current wording
The table below summarizes our three and six-month operating results for the periods ended March 30, 2025 and March 31, 2024, in terms of both the GAAP net income measure and the non-GAAP Adjusted EBITDA measure. We believe that including both measures allows the reader better to evaluate our overall performance.
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Our net income increased by $0.4 million to $0.8 million for the three months ended December 29, 2024, as compared to $0.4 million for the prior year period. Our adjusted EBITDA increased by $0.4 million to $1.1 million for the three months ended December 29, 2024, as compared to $0.8 million for the prior year period.
Current wording
Our net income increased by $0.7 million to $1.8 million for the three months ended March 30, 2025, as compared to net income of $1.1 million for the prior year period. Our adjusted EBITDA increased by $0.8 million to $2.4 million for the three months ended March 30, 2025, as compared to adjusted EBITDA of $1.6 million for the prior year period.
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The increase is primarily driven by higher revenue and gross profit at the Applied Optics Center segment. Operating segment performance is discussed in greater detail throughout the following sections.
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The increase in net income and adjusted EBITDA for the most recent three and six-month periods compared to the prior year periods is primarily driven by increased revenue and gross profit. Operating segment performance is discussed in greater detail throughout the following sections.
Previous wording
For the three months ended December 29, 2024, our total revenues increased by $1.2 million, or 17.7%, compared to the prior year period. The increase in revenue was primarily driven by increased revenue at the Applied Optics Center during the most recent three months as compared to the prior year period.
Current wording
For the three months ended March 30, 2025, our total revenues increased by $2.2 million, or 25.9%, compared to the prior year period. The increase in revenue was primarily driven increased periscope production capacity at the Optex Richardson segment and higher customer demand for laser filters at the Applied Optics Center.
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Our operating income for the three months ended December 29, 2024 increased by $0.4 million compared to the prior year period. The increase in operating income was primarily driven by higher revenue and gross profit, which outpaced increased general and administrative spending.
Current wording
Our operating income for the three months ended March 30, 2025 increased by $0.9 million, or 65.0%, compared to the prior year period. The increase in operating income was primarily driven by higher revenue and gross profit combined with lower general and administrative costs.
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The following table depicts the new customer orders for the three months ending December 29, 2024 as compared to the prior year period in millions of dollars:
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The following table depicts the new customer orders for the six months ending March 30, 2025 as compared to the prior year period in millions of dollars by segment and product line:
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Backlog as of December 29, 2024 was $42.0 million as compared to a backlog of $45.0 million as of December 31, 2023, representing a decrease of 6.7%. The following table depicts the current expected delivery by quarter of all contracts awarded as of December 29, 2024, as well as the December 29, 2024 backlog as compared to the backlog on December 31, 2023.
Current wording
Backlog as of March 30, 2025 was $41.1 million, compared to a backlog of $44.2 million as of March 31, 2024 and as of September 29, 2024, representing a decrease of ($3.1) million, or (7.0%). The following table depicts the current expected delivery by period of all contracts awarded as of March 30, 2025 in millions of dollars:
Previous wording
Optex Richardson backlog as of December 29, 2024, was $31.0 million as compared to a backlog of $29.3 million as of December 31, 2023, representing an increase of $1.7 million or 5.8%. The increased backlog for the Optex Richardson segment is primarily driven by higher customer demand for periscopes and the earlier timing of awards from our customers due to the current increased lead times from order to delivery.
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Optex Richardson backlog as of March 30, 2025 was $31.0 million as compared to a backlog of $29.9 million as of March 31, 2024, representing an increase of $1.1 million or 3.7%.
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The Company continues to pursue domestic, international and commercial opportunities in addition to maintaining its current footprint with U.S. vehicle manufacturers, with existing as well as new product lines. We are also reviewing potential products outside our traditional product lines, which could be manufactured using our current production facilities in order to capitalize on our existing excess capacity.
Current wording
The Company continues to aggressively pursue international and commercial opportunities in addition to maintaining its current footprint with U.S. vehicle manufactures, with existing as well as new product lines. We are also reviewing potential products, outside our traditional product lines, which could be manufactured using our current production facilities in order to capitalize on our existing excess capacity.
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Revenue. For the three months ended December 29, 2024, revenue increased by $1.2 million or 17.7% compared to the prior year period as set forth in the table below:
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Revenues. For the three months ended March 30, 2025, revenues increased by $2.2 million or 25.9 % compared to the prior year period as set forth in the table below:
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G&A Expenses. During the three months ended December 29, 2024 and December 31, 2023, we recorded operating expenses of $1.2 million and $1.1 million, respectively. Operating expenses increased by 7.2% over the prior year period primarily due to increases in royalties and selling expenses over the prior year period.
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G&A Expenses. During the three months ended March 30, 2025 and March 31, 2024, we recorded operating expenses of $1.1 million and $1.2 million, respectively. Operating expenses decreased $0.1 million in the current year period as compared with the prior year period on lower stock compensation expenses.
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Applied Optics Center revenue increased by $1.2 million or 33.8% for the three months ended December 29, 2024 as compared to the prior year period. The revenue increase is primarily attributable to military spending on filters, day windows and other, partially offset by lower revenue from commercial optical assemblies during the three months ended December 29, 2024 as compared to the prior year period.
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Applied Optics Center revenue increased by $1.4 million or 17.5% for the six months ended March 30, 2025 as compared to the prior year period. The revenue increase is primarily attributable to military products, primarily laser filters, partially offset by lower revenue on our commercial optical assemblies. We expect this trend to continue through the end of the fiscal year.
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Gross Margin. The gross margin during the three-month period ended December 29, 2024 was 26.0% of revenue as compared to a gross margin of 24.2% of revenue for the prior year period. The increase in gross profit is primarily attributable to higher revenue against a fixed cost base combined with changes in product mix between segments. Cost of sales increased to $6.1 million for the recently completed period as compared to the prior year period of $5.3 million due to higher revenue.
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Gross Profit. The gross margin during the six-month period ended March 30, 2025 was 29.0% of revenue as compared to a gross margin of 27.4% of revenue for the prior year period. The gross profit increased by $1.3 million to $5.5 million for the six months ended March 30, 2025 as compared to $4.2 million for the prior year period. The increase in gross profit is primarily attributable to higher revenue, absorption of fixed cost across the higher revenue base and changes in mix between operating segments. Cost of sales increased to $13.4 million for the six months ended March 30, 2025 as compared to the prior year period of $11.3 million on higher period revenue.
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Operating Income. During the three months ended December 29, 2024, we recorded operating income of $0.9 million, as compared to operating income of $0.6 million during the three months ended December 31, 2023. The $0.4 million increase in operating income is primarily due to higher revenue and gross profit, slightly offset by increased general and administrative spending.
Current wording
Operating Income. During the six months ended March 30, 2025, we recorded operating income of $3.2 million, as compared to operating income of $1.9 million during the six months ended March 31, 2024. The $1.3 million increase in operating income is primarily due to higher revenue and gross profit.
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As of December 29, 2024, Optex Systems Holdings had working capital of $15.9 million, as compared to $15.1 million as of September 29, 2024. During the three months ended December 29, 2024, we generated operating cash of $2.8 million, primarily driven by higher net income and collections against accounts receivable. During the three months ended December 29, 2024, we paid $1.0 million against the credit facility.
Current wording
As of March 30, 2025, Optex Systems Holdings had working capital of $17.9 million, as compared to $15.1 million as of September 29, 2024. During the six months ended March 30, 2025, we generated operating cash of $4.0 million, primarily driven by higher income of $2.6 million, use of inventory of $0.9 million, and other changes in working capital of $0.5 million. During the six months ended March 30, 2025, we paid $1.0 million against the credit facility and purchased capital assets of $0.5 million.
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Backlog as of December 29, 2024 was $42.0 million as compared to $45.0 million as of December 31, 2023, representing a decrease of 6.7%. For further details, see “Results of Operations – New Orders and Backlog” above.
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Backlog as of March 30, 2025 was $41.1 million as compared to $44.2 million and $44.2 million as of September 29, 2024 and March 31, 2024, respectively. For further details, see “Results of Operations – New Orders and Backlog” above.
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At December 29, 2024, the Company had approximately $2.5 million in cash and no draws against our revolving credit line. As of December 29, 2024, our outstanding accounts receivable balance was $1.7 million, which has been collected during the second quarter of fiscal 2025.
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At March 30, 2025, the Company had approximately $3.5 million in cash and no draws against its revolving credit line. As of March 30, 2025, our outstanding accounts receivable balance was $4.2 million to be collected during the third quarter of fiscal 2025.
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On March 22, 2023, the Company and its subsidiary, Optex Systems, Inc. (“Optex”, and with the Company, the “Borrowers”), entered into a Business Loan Agreement (the “Loan Agreement”) with Texas Capital Bank (the “Lender”), pursuant to which the Lender will make available to the Borrowers a revolving line of credit in the principal amount of $3 million (the “Credit Facility”). The commitment period for advances under the Credit Facility is twenty-six months expiring on May 22, 2025. We refer to the expiration of that time period as the “Maturity Date.” Outstanding advances under the Credit Facility will accrue interest at a rate equal to the secured overnight financing rate (SOFR) plus a specified margin, subject to a specified floor interest rate. As of December 29, 2024, the interest rate was 7.35% per annum.
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On March 22, 2023, the Company and its subsidiary, Optex Systems, Inc. (“Optex”, and with the Company, the “Borrowers”), entered into a Business Loan Agreement (the “Loan Agreement”) with Texas Capital Bank (the “Lender”), pursuant to which the Lender will make available to the Borrowers a revolving line of credit in the principal amount of $3 million (the “Credit Facility”). The commitment period for advances under the Credit Facility is twenty-six months expiring on May 22, 2025. We refer to the expiration of that time period as the “Maturity Date.” Outstanding advances under the Credit Facility will accrue interest at a rate equal to the secured overnight financing rate (SOFR) plus a specified margin, subject to a specified floor interest rate. As of March 30, 2025, the interest rate was 7.07% per annum. We are currently in process of renewing the Credit Facility and expect renewal to be completed prior to the Maturity Date.
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During the three months ended December 29, 2024 the Company declared and paid no dividends. As of December 29, 2024, there are no outstanding declared and unpaid dividends.
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During the three months ended March 30, 2025 the Company declared and paid no dividends. As of Mach 30, 2025, there are no outstanding declared and unpaid dividends.
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Our critical accounting estimates include warranty costs, contract losses and the deferred tax asset valuation. Future warranty costs are based on the estimated cost of replacement for expected returns based upon our most recent experience rate of defects as a percentage of warranty covered sales. Our warranty covered sales primarily include the Applied Optics Center optical assemblies. While our warranty period is 12 months, our reserve balances assume a general 90-day return period for optical assemblies previously delivered plus any returned backlog in-house that has not yet been repaired or replaced to our customer. If our actual warranty returns should significantly exceed our historical rates on new customer products, significant production changes, or substantial customer changes to the 90-day turn-around times on returned goods, the impact could be material to our operating profit. We have not experienced any significant changes to our warranty trends in the preceding three years and do not anticipate any significant impacts in the near term. We monitor the actual warranty costs incurred to the expected values on a quarterly basis and adjust our estimates accordingly. As of December 29, 2024, the Company had accrued warranty costs of $22 thousand, as compared to $52 thousand as of September 29, 2024. The primary reason for the $30 thousand decrease in reserve balances relates to lower-than-expected warranty returns on product deliveries during the three months ended December 29, 2024.
Current wording
Our critical accounting estimates include warranty costs, contract losses and the deferred tax asset valuation. Future warranty costs are based on the estimated cost of replacement for expected returns based upon our most recent experience rate of defects as a percentage of warranty covered sales. Our warranty covered sales primarily include the Applied Optics Center optical assemblies. While our warranty period is 12 months, our reserve balances assume a general 90-day return period for optical assemblies previously delivered plus any returned backlog in-house that has not yet been repaired or replaced to our customer. If our actual warranty returns should significantly exceed our historical rates on new customer products, significant production changes, or substantial customer changes to the 90-day turn-around times on returned goods, the impact could be material to our operating profit. We have not experienced any significant changes to our warranty trends in the preceding three years and do not anticipate any significant impacts in the near term. We monitor the actual warranty costs incurred to the expected values on a quarterly basis and adjust our estimates accordingly. As of March 30, 2025, the Company had accrued warranty costs of $106 thousand, as compared to $52 thousand as of September 29, 2024. The primary reason for the $54 thousand increase in reserve balances relates to accrual related to a potential warranty issue on our Applied Optics Day Windows of $83 thousand, offset by lower shipments and reduced warranties on our commercial optical assemblies.
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As of December 29, 2024 and September 29, 2024, we had $213 thousand, and $259 thousand, respectively, of contract loss reserves included in our balance sheet accrued expenses. These loss contracts are related to some of our older legacy periscope IDIQ contracts which were priced in 2018 through early 2020, prior to Covid-19 and the significant downturn in defense spending on ground system vehicles. Due to inflationary price increases on component parts and higher internal manufacturing costs (as a result of escalating labor costs and higher burden rates on reduced volume), some of these contracts are in a loss condition, or at marginal profit rates. These contracts are typically three-year IDIQ contracts with two optional award years, and as such, we are obligated to accept new task awards against these contracts until the contract expiration. Should contract costs continue to increase above the negotiated selling price, or in the event the customer should release substantial quantities against these existing loss contracts, the losses could be material. For contracts currently in a loss status based on the estimated per unit contract costs, losses are booked immediately on new task order awards. During the three months ended December 29, 2024, the Company recognized $7 thousand in loss reserves on new contract awards, made shipments resulting in reductions of $53 thousand against existing loss reserves.
Current wording
As of March 30, 2025 and September 29, 2024, we had $226 thousand, and $259 thousand, respectively, of contract loss reserves included in our balance sheet accrued expenses. These loss contracts are related to some of our older legacy periscope IDIQ contracts which were priced in 2018 through early 2020, prior to Covid-19 and the significant downturn in defense spending on ground system vehicles. Due to inflationary price increases on component parts and higher internal manufacturing costs (as a result of escalating labor costs and higher burden rates on reduced volume), some of these contracts are in a loss condition, or at marginal profit rates. These contracts are typically three-year IDIQ contracts with two optional award years, and as such, we are obligated to accept new task awards against these contracts until the contract expiration. Should contract costs continue to increase above the negotiated selling price, or in the event the customer should release substantial quantities against these existing loss contracts, the losses could be material. For contracts currently in a loss status based on the estimated per unit contract costs, losses are booked immediately on new task order awards. During the three and six months ended March 30, 2025, the Company recognized $11 thousand and $18 thousand in loss reserves on new contract awards, changes in estimates for the contract loss reserves of ($10) thousand and $4 thousand and applied reserves of $8 thousand and $47 thousand to cost of sales against revenues booked during the periods, respectively.
Previous wording
As of December 29, 2024 and September 29, 2024, Optex Systems, Inc. has a deferred tax asset valuation allowance of ($0.8) million against deferred tax assets of $1.7 million, for a net deferred tax asset of $0.9 million. The valuation allowance has been established due to historical losses resulting in a Net Operating Loss Carryforward for each of the fiscal years 2011 through 2016 which may not be fully recognized due to an IRS Section 382 limitation related to a change in control. The valuation allowance covers certain deferred tax assets where we believe we will be unlikely to recover those tax assets through future operations. The valuation reserve includes assumptions related to future taxable income which would be available to cover net operating loss carryforward amounts. Because of the uncertainties of future income forecasts combined with the complexity of some of the deferred assets, these forecasts are subject to change over time. While we believe our current estimate to be reasonable, changing market conditions and profitability, changes in equity structure and changes in tax regulations may impact our estimated reserves in future periods.
Current wording
As of March 30, 2025 and September 29, 2024, the Company had a deferred tax asset valuation allowance of ($0.8) million against deferred tax assets of $1.6 million and $1.7 million, for a net deferred tax asset of $0.8 million and $0.9 million, respectively. The valuation allowance has been established due to historical losses resulting in a Net Operating Loss Carryforward for each of the fiscal years 2011 through 2016 which may not be fully recognized due to an IRS Section 382 limitation related to a change in control. The valuation allowance covers certain deferred tax assets where we believe we will be unlikely to recover those tax assets through future operations. The valuation reserve includes assumptions related to future taxable income which would be available to cover net operating loss carryforward amounts. Because of the uncertainties of future income forecasts combined with the complexity of some of the deferred assets, these forecasts are subject to change over time. While we believe our current estimate to be reasonable, changing market conditions and profitability, changes in equity structure and changes in tax regulations may impact our estimated reserves in future periods.
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Current report — wording carried from elsewhere
G&A Expenses. During the six months ended March 30, 2025 and March 31, 2024, we recorded operating expenses of $2.3 million.